It was not the right gun. Mind you, it is before the trial. (Appendix 81, page 1466). This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. statement regarding the effects of the childrens medications while in hospital should acknowledge where the blogger obtained information about the side effects.). Knickerbocker reported to the police that Downs had stalked him and seemed . If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. What I explain in the blog is that the fact that Foote is the one who removed the children from Dianes care is exactly why he should NOT have been presiding over her murder trial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives. The Parole Board had an obligation to parole Diane between 1998 and 2002 if she could provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society. When Downs expressed disbelief at the mans request, she said he started shooting through the window at her three children. Christie said that her mother had pulled the car over on the dark, isolated road, retrieved something from the trunk of the car, and started shooting at her and her siblings. The unreliability of childrens testimony has been documented by cognitive psychologists such as Elizabeth Loftus of the University of Cornell and others. Spending 35 years incarcerated with time in isolation and often as a target is not going to improve mental health. When your goal is to call me dude, insult my name and trash my blog, you can go on other sites who will love to spar with you while swallowing the old narrative of high profile cases. Movie scene alleging that Christie was scared. Nobody knows but her. In a fairly good knot which would have taken time to do one handed and teeth. He had an attorney, Fred G. Campbell Jr., send us a letter denying our request and telling us: You are legally, as well as factually, a stranger to them. Who does he think he is? She was not in the car when her children were shot. Her family members were quite capable of taking care of the children. They removed them and proceeded to interrogate the poor girl until she gave them what they needed. The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings I dont buy it Shes guilty She did it I know she did it Her story makes no sense Shes evil Shes crazy. It had to be her.. Not speculative? Youre right to say that a GSR is not always foolproof and between 10-20% of suicide GSR kits test negative for GSR. Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense. The unicorn, the song, her personality. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. It is a research done on the case according to many sources. See more Show your support Send Flowers Send flowers or a gift to a service or family's home. Ann Rule promotes her books as true crime stories so to this day, viewers believe that the book and the movie titled Small Sacrificesdocument the true story of the Diane Downs case; in fact, it is a mix bag of truth, falsehoods, interpretation and plain fiction. Diane has not been deemed an ongoing public threat that I am aware of. Thanks again. In 1992 I became involved in this work following my interest and research into a notorious murder trial that was held in Oregon many years ago. Women who were somewhat normal begore, get pregnant, have the baby, then drown it a toilet, kill or beat the the baby in the first year..shaking or other means..its less often then notbut better believe these type of cases are reported constantly now on social media. The police DID fingerprint the car, from grill to trunk and in between. Its tiresome. They dont need to be adopted and have their entire identity changed. Hugi got the evidence needed to convict after numerous meetings with Christie. Do not take this so personally. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. From the time Diane was a teenager, when a physician ordered visterol in an emergency room situation, it has been documented again and again that sedatives ingested while Diane is in pain, provoke a chemically induced hysteria in her. The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter. And once again, considering that she was diagnosed as bipolar, did not help her cause. I think that the US system is barbaric After graduation, Steven joined the Navy and Diane was sent to Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College where she failed miserably at remaining pure and chaste, not unlike most girls of her generation who rejected their strict religious upbringing. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? And Im really not on the fence the little girl was coachedI believe the ex husband , his freinds, and her lovers were invalid either way. In 1991, David Brewer, a juror who deliberated Dianes fate in her 1984 trial, came forward to say he and another juror had decided to acquit Downs by the close of the States presentation. Other Locations Watertown, NY Scottsdale, AZ . Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. Or can have an accomplice. Thank you Lise. Lise do you know if the kids have ever reached out to the grandparents/family in the last few years? The fact that there was a rush to judgment, an investigation targeting only one result and a media coverage often presenting lies is very bothersome. What was the rationale behind this? I am not saying she is innocent. Mr. Today, Diane Downs is 63 years old and sits in a California prison. They now throw people in prison in the US for debts. I then question how she would not have blood splatter if she shot them inside the car at close range. I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. Hugi did not want that. I agree in both cases they were high profile cases. The last time I checked, it is my website and if you find it tiresome, no one is inviting you to stay or read the content; which you evidently did not read anyway. All Filters. Of course buying drugs with three kids in the middle of the night from a guy like that is not the mindful thing to do, but would be more consistent as an explanation for her actions. I remember when Diane shot her kids and there are some facts Id like to correct from your blog. But, Diane also claimed that Robert had told her that he was planning on leaving his wife and moving to Oregon to be with her. When questioned by police, Knickerbocker admitted to the affair and said that each time he'd tried to break off his relationship with Downs, she'd become violent. They already had made up their mind that Diane was the perpetrator so they laughed off the idea of the bushy haired stranger. The problem was that they could not find the gun anywhere and they had nothing on Diane. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). Speculative. She was fighting back and they did not like it. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. In the blog, there is a link on the subject of bipolar people who tend to laugh at the wrong time. The gun presented at trial being the wrong one is a fact. Therefore, my understanding is that the original sentence is deemed indefinite with parole hearings every 10 years. Robert Knickerbocker in Phoenix, AZ Robert Knickerbocker may also have lived outside of Phoenix, such as Carefree and Scottsdale. Any thoughts on how the detectives basically made up their mind right away in spite of numerous tips coming in? If you had, you would clearly know that I do not claim her guilt or innocence. Diane did not get a fair trial. I know that most people think she is guilty. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. Thats food for thought. Not our place to decide. You hit the nail right on the head. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. It is not a hatefest and I do not wish death or life without parole on anyone. Plus, the circumstances of this charade were more than sinister. Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. I worked for county government child welfare for a decade. View Cell Phone Number View Background Report. Is Diane really a threat anymore? We identified 6 records related to "Robert Knickerbocker" in the state of Arizona. Their theory was very shaky. A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. Mission accomplished: Relevance? To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. Being a patient of the doctor who saved the childrens lives has nothing to do with the facts of a case. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. It wasnt simply her demeanor that got her convicted. Spiritual advancement and atonement? If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation. Foote ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the defenseon most of the admissible evidence questions including all the nurses notes about Danny talking about a man shooting him but admitted Christies reports about her mother shooting her. What about the son saying that man and nurses noting that. I followed the trial. So move on. As you said, the system has to work for everyone and you cant change the rules because a case is high profile without muddying the waters. And if he really was attached to them and wanted to offer them a permanent home, it means he was unfit to be the prosecutor in this case. She is nowhere near being paroled and if she admitted guilt, I am not even convinced they would release her. Phone Number: (520) 293-QPFP +2 phones. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. Diane had a few lovers, which Knick refused to acknowledge (Appendix 81, pages 1508, 1520). There is so much to say about this blog I wouldnt know where to start. It is my hope that Leslie Van Houten and Diane Downs are never paroled. Lets not take that lightly. She was expelled and reunited with him against her parents wishes. Most were married because Diane had no desire to remarry. Brewer changed his mind. Maybe she didnt want to admit she was there for drugs, but you need a really tiny brain to worry about that in such a situation. If she did have memories of the actual shooting, that would be very rare. Past Addresses: Tucson AZ, Tucson AZ +2 more. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter.A little investigation would not hurt. In fact, Knick admits Diane took that gold chain as collateral against a $500 LOAN she made to him. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. Background details that you might want to know about Robert include: ethnicity is unknown, whose political affiliation is none; and religious views are listed as unknown. Mr. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. Or that they are not even curious about it. Glenda Mack says she has no idea who would hurt the young boy she had been raising since he was a newborn. Ive been trying to decipher her handwriting on the couple of pages she wrote to her daughter (misquoted on here somewhere is a highlighted If you love your little boy, youll take him far away from here- why is this being taken as a threat and not a warning?!). Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. How was DD able to get away from CK and get the keys back into the ignition without there being more attempts on her life? 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